What Elements Are Key to Achieving Progress in the Middle East Peace Talks?

Posted by DipNote Bloggers
September 3, 2010
Secretary Clinton, Special Envoy Mitchell, President Abbas and Prime Minister Netanyahu

More:Middle East Peace Negotiations | White House Blog: Forging Ahead on Middle East Peace Talks

On September 2, Secretary Clinton hosted direct negotiations between the Israelis and the Palestinians, at the Department of State.

In his briefing on the talks, Special Envoy for Middle East Peace George Mitchell said, "The parties agreed that a logical next step would be to begin working on achieving a framework agreement for permanent status. The purpose of a framework agreement will be to establish the fundamental compromises necessary to enable them to flesh out and complete a comprehensive treaty that will end the conflict and establish a lasting peace between Israel and the Palestinians. The parties agreed that in their actions and statements they will work to create an atmosphere of trust that will be conducive to reaching a final agreement."

The parties will meet again on September 14 and 15 in the region, and approximately every two weeks thereafter.

For these future meetings, what other elements are key to achieving progress in the talks?

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rita n.
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District Of Columbia, USA
September 4, 2010

Rita N. in Washington writes:

Gazans must disassociate themselves from Hamas. they must openly declare their objection to being used as human shields and Gaza as a safe haven for terrorists. In this they would have the support of Israel I'm sure.

maurice m.
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Tennessee, USA
September 4, 2010

Maurice M. in Tennessee writes:

That they give justice to all including Hamas acknowledge them as truly elected leaders. Give justice to the ethopian jews

donna a.
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Iowa, USA
September 4, 2010

Donna A.I.A. in Iowa writes:

be ready to serve be open to frienship and support secret service agents with a blind faith that will lead the country to safety in turn giving us what we want to be an alli will a country we have always been curious of that we need that we can help and who has a history as rich as ours.

J.C. P.
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Iowa, USA
September 4, 2010

J.C.P. in Iowa writes:

Create a more user friendly tourism industry in the West Bank for the Pilgrims on pilgrimage but be careful as not to take gifts in a place of pilgrimage because that is bad.

OysterCracker
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United States
September 4, 2010

O.C. in the U.S.A. writes:

I've seen beautiful pictures taken by a well known photographer of Palestinians living in Israel before it was a state. Herein lies the problem. If Palestinians and Israeli's could work together to create a bright and succesful future for each other would they have to fight over old wounds? Both sides need to work hard for a common goal. The playacting at peace needs to end. They need to find something they can both agree on. Even in a bad marriage, parents can put their differences aside to make their children's lives better. Children are a good rallying point. Improve their lives and maybe your adult differences won't seem so vast.

Joseph M.
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Oregon, USA
September 4, 2010

Joseph A.M. in Oregon writes:

Historically, Jerusalem has been a central focus of conflict and has had a special significance for centuries, Jerusalem represents three major religions of the world -- and many bloody battles have been fought over control for the City of Jerusalem.

That said, unfortunately, I think that Jerusalem, should either be divided, or made into a "internationally controlled, separate entity" meaning governed by a multi-national U.N. controlled contingent -- similar to how "Berlin" was divided into sections, following World War II and during the Cold War. Another example, would be how Nicosia, Cyprus has been divided since the Turkish military intervention of Northern Cyprus in 1973, separated by a U.N. buffer zone, dividing the Greek Cypriots from the Turkish Cypriots. It is sad to think, but Jerusalem, should be governed by the U.N. and a "multi-national entity", there is no other way in resolving this conflict reasonably, or they keep it entirely under Israeli control (as it is today) and the Palestinians remain the big losers, with no territorial rights and with no future hope with establishing a homeland. Jerusalem, should be treated as a special circumstance, due to its religious significance.

Other concerns are; (2) the continuation and expansion of Israeli settlements in U.N. recognized an established Palestinian territory -- including expansion of Israeli settlements in East Jerusalem. (3) President Abbas, not representing the interests and concerns of the Hamas, democratically elected government in Gaza -- the Hamas government needs representation in the direct talks and with the facilitation of the "two-state process". (3) This conflict has been ongoing for over sixty years, with the Palestinian people, getting the "very short end of the stick", they would have to find a way of unifying the Palestinian territories, with respect to Gaza and the West Bank, instead of drafting a two-state solution, and having the Palestinian homeland separated. (4) The U.N. should be the legitimate governing body, who would oversee and monitor this "geo-political conflict" and the "newly established Palestinian State", not the Israeli's. It is the responsibility of the entire international community, including the European Union (EU), for facilitating this process and with wanting to achieve a settlement and peace for this region of the Middle-East -- It would be absolutely astounding in seeing this settlement achieved on Secretary Hillary's watch.

palgye
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South Korea
September 4, 2010

Palgye in South Korea writes:

Absurd suggestion.

Very careful and difficult subject because I think the story is difficult. Lack of technical knowledge is simply to talk about. The point of dispute between Israel and the Palestinian territories, I think. Israel insists that the Palestinian territories approved the recovery of the territory saying ppaetatgin will, however, in reality the people of Israel if Israel returns, where do you go? Live together in peace, but in reality difficult to think narrow in width. I think the mood of the people do not ...

Israel and the international community to give support, we would find a new territory that - and give financial support to the country as a condition - was absurd idea.

In conclusion, (a religious issue but) I think the reality is the territory. Difficult to accept, but still fight, I thought the exploited.

P.S
Jerusalem, for it does not recognize absolute ownership by including conditions. Share?

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
September 4, 2010

Eric in New Mexico writes:

Well in some ways the biggest hurdle has been crossed over...the parties have gotten a grip and are actuaslly talking face to face, and smiling about it even...some would call that a freekin' miracle all by itself.

Others like Iran consider the effort "doomed", and they intend to insure that it is.

Hamas and some 13 other terrorist groups have declared a "united front" against peace, and I think once the world has such a clear understanding of il;l intent, folks might just wabnt to do something about their ability to break the peace.

I draw from something Abass said about "the land of peace" and that's got to be the opperative "end state" that gets created, because there's a lot of blood spilled on the ground over the years and I've never seen evidence of that "undiscovered country" Abass was talking about in my 50 years of living.

That it exists in the minds of men is hopeful, but not reflective of reality on the ground as it exists today.

I wonder sometimes at what things would be like had Israel engaged in a "Marshall Plan" after the 67 war to lift the vanquished up out of the rubble and would terrorism have taken hold at all in the region?

I think the US policy does provide example of a proper way to create a lasting peace and demostratabley turns former enemies into partners and friends on a pretty consistant basis.

So this thing about "settlements" ...this "roadblock" if that's what it represents to agreement can be turned on its head to be a positive...if folks get creative.

As a construction worker, I take a very simple approach to what has been made to be outragiously complex as an issue to solve.

It starts with the basic "given" of economics, that if a community has "zero growth" it will ultimately stagnate as a community.

So, some natural growth is essential...and this does not have to be a problem for Palestinians or an issue about territory.

Not if the Israelis are building Palestinians homes at the same time to allow for an influx of people that will ultimately come out of "refugee status" and return to a Palestinian State eventually.

This is how Israel can get into "NATION BUILDING" in a way that will earn the respect of Palestinians and reach a reasonable compromise to resolve the issue.

And put some Palestinians to work as well, side by side with Israelis building homes and peace.

This is a benefit to both economicly, keeping people working and making visable progress on improving lives.

Gaza is ripe for urban renual, and sometimes it is neccessary to tear down to build anew. This is not just physicly, but politically as well, and I think it's going to be hard to improve lives there while Hamas threatens the peace folks seek.

Everyone of those involved in creating peace are in agreement that the status quo is "unacceptable", "not sustainable" and that is completely self evident on its face.

It's the "How?" you go about changing it that will make the difference in the outcome.

First of all, if folks want conflict, there will be conflict regardless of who wants peace, and in "the land of peace" those that sow conflict must be banished from "the land of peace" for it to be that in reality.

I don't think there's any way of getting around this parameter to creating a viable nation state of Palestine, or maintaining Israel's viability as a nation that seeks peace, for she will react to threats and terror with overwhelming force at a time of her choosing.

I think the people of Gaza must make a choice. If they wish to live in Peace, then those who do should be given shelter in the West bank and leave Gaza, gotta separate the civilians fron the terrorists before Gaza gets leveled.

I've suggested that Abass ask Iran to give Hamas somewhere to go to once their notice of eviction is given by President Abass, it's his call to make before Israel makes it out of neccessity in reaction to terror.

One must anticipate that they won't go quietly, and you gotta do everything possible to minimize the human cost of civilians caught in the crossfire, giving them notice to leave the area prior to action taken jointly by the parties to bring peace to the area. Creating it from scratch in the process.

Out of this process folks I think will gain an understanding that this conflict isn't so much about being between Palestinian and Jew, but in fact "the sane vs. the insane" and religious and cultual differences will be mostly set aside for the duration in this realization among those who seek peace.

The enemy of my enemy may not be my friend..yet, but he is "my partner in peace".

When this is "word on the street" in actuality in "the land of peace", then Hamas would be wise to vacate power without a fight.

War has been declared on this peace process in no uncertain terms, and the answer to them must be "You don't get to do that."

J.C. P.
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Iowa, USA
September 5, 2010

J.C.P. in Iowa writes:

This has all happenned before but in those days the terrorist were called lions. II Kings 17:25. The solution is the still same (verses 27-28). Don't worry verse 33 says nobody has to convert

palgye
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South Korea
September 6, 2010

Palgye in South Korea writes:

Dear to,
-solution-Be forced to choose just one, I think.

Woman sentenced to death by stoning denied visits from lawyer, family
"http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/08/28/iran.stoning/index.html?ir..."

stoning? If you claim to be unique customs, then I do not think that we must forgive.

Is due to the peculiarities of the press to tell the story with only dangerous, but how can you have to stop to think. Hit a stone can not imagine the pain of death penalty to die imagination. At first I was trying to stop the pain that his death only a primitive sense of feeling like I was dying slowly, you ........... this will be blocking.

blocking?
law for Self-employer is wandering at lobby, it's now I think the government is similar to the stoning. Citizens feel the laws in conjunction with common sense look at them, becoming self-employed people who pass through any kind of law is to strengthen the flexibility of employment, but until now applied yujidoeeoon Act like customs and to protect their vested rights to their territory and territorial brainwash their logic is different than what I do not think that.

Through collective emotional retaliation to justify opposition to the stoning.

Thank You.

P.S
Is a very personal opinion. POSCO. To build a steel plant in Indonesia about what other companies and organizations have, however, said he would build a new plant in November, and perhaps my personal opinion, I'm sorry, but the November election against the Democratic Party but instead expected to die - Latest Just as the Republican focuses on corporate donations - have to wait and wonder.

Which was originally believed that the company, it's not a pleasant situation, I think. Please, I hope I'm wrong, but I expect something like this as I think it is incorrect calculations.

The bottom line is I think the enemy coalition. However, an opportunist with the United Nations think that it's impossible.
solution-Be forced to choose just one I think.

J.C. P.
September 7, 2010

J.C.P. writes:

If Israel doesn't want to negotiate we should use the two temple mounts (Samaria, and Jerusalem) to bring about the second hemistich of Deuteronomy 32:21Ipsi me provocaverunt in eo qui non erat Deus, et irritaverunt in vanitatibus suis : et ego provocabo eos in eo qui non est populus, et in gente stulta irritabo illos. Sometimes there is no negotiating with Israel either.

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
September 7, 2010

Eric in New Mexico writes:

@Palgue,

If I'm not mistaken, the US justice dept. and our Supreme court would both be in agreement on the legal ruling that "stoning" represents "cruel and unusual punishment" as a sentence handed down by authority in taking a citizen's life.

Regardless of any so-called "merits" of the case or the laws broken claimed by Iran.

This is a nation signatory to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and consistantly violates them.

Why their "Charter membership" in the UN hasn't been revoked by now is a complete mystery to me...

Especially if the intent is to "isolate" the regime via sanctions and other ways of "changing behavior", or getting their leaders to "recalculate" the cost of their intent and actions in defiance of UN resolutions as well as their treatment of the Iranian people in general.

Untill the Iranian people can stand up a government that can demonstratably live within the means of international norms and rededicate Iran to the founding principals civilization today is based upon as a chater member of the UN Charter, they shouldn't be represented within that forum...period.

Unless to face the charges brought against them by Chaper 7 resolution of the Security Council.

Folks have an opportunity to convince their publics that they are serious about creating a better world to live in.

Steven E.
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North Carolina, USA
September 7, 2010

Steven R.E. in North Carolina writes:

We must never forget that Prime Minister Ehud Barak once offered to give 99% of the territory taken in a defensive war, in return for peace. Arafat refused, resulting in the Oslo Intifada, and the deaths of 1000 Israelis and 4000 Arabs. There is absolutely no reason to believe that any gift of land would result in peace. If I were in charge, I would ask Israel to annex Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. Make the Arabs citizens of one state - Israel with its capital remaining Jerusalem. There would be no worries about uprooting the Jewish citizens of Judea and Samaria, and perhaps after time all would live in peace.

Brad B.
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Canada
September 7, 2010

Brad B. in Canada writes:

Joseph A. M.: I disagree about Jerusalem. It is the historic Jewish capital. (Christians have the Vatican and Muslims Mecca; no-one would suggest dividing those.)

In 1948 Jordan captured East Jerusalem and kicked out the Jews. They then proceeded to desecrate every Jewish site they could find and refused Jews access to the Western Wall.

There was no protest about any of this from the U.N. or western countries.

When Israel recaptured East Jerusalem in 1967 there was no revenge. They left the Jordanian Waqf in charge of al Aqsa and Israeli police guard the site despite it being built atop Judaism’s holiest place. All religions in Jerusalem now have free access to their religious sites. Another point to note is that since 1967, Arabs have continued to desecrate Jewish sites in the area when the opportunity presents itself, also with a lack of complaint from the world in general.

For “the world” to make demands on Israel re Jerusalem after its appalling apathy when Jews were displaced and denied access is completely unacceptable, particularly with the situation currently being harmonious, carping by the Palestinian leadership notwithstanding.

Patrick W.
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Maryland, USA
September 7, 2010

Patrick W. in Maryland writes:

Hello,just checking in too,see how things are going at the States Department.

These are some of the things that could help Achieve Progress in the Middle East Peace Talks.

First: Both sides need to have open Minds when it comes too ,Negotiations ,Security and Land Management.

Second: Try too,do what you say Your going, too Do,or keep Your Promises.

Third: Play Nicely with each other During the Peace Talks.

Fourth: Find Better ways of dealing with old problems, that have little too do, with the New Peace Talks.

Fifth: Be the better Man and do what's right for the Citizens of your Countries. :)

Sixth: Be A Good Neighbor By Feed the Hungery and showing some good-will to one Another.

Seven: Do your best and then do Better.

Eight: Be a good Neighbor and feed their Pets when their on Vacation...hehe LOL .__. :)

Well,thats about it.:) Just a Few thoughts on this Subject.

Anyways ,i hope Hillary and The DipNote Community had a Great Labor Day Weekend.

See Ya's____:):)

palgye
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South Korea
September 8, 2010

Palgye in South Korea writes:

iran.

Douglas G.
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Virginia, USA
September 8, 2010

Douglas G. in Virginia writes:

RECIPE FOR PEACE:

1. Zionists remove their settlements from the West Bank and East Jerusalem. East Jerusalem becomes the capital of a Palesitian state.

Chance of happening: 1 in a 1,000. At best.

2. Palestinians overwhelmingly agree to a secure state of Israel and give up most, if not all, of their land claims lost to Jewish settlers since World War I.

Chance of happening: 1 in a 1,000. At best.

Chance of two "1 in a 1,000" events occuring simultaneously: 1/1,000 X 1/1,000 = 1,000,000

With or without the murders of Zionist settlers by Palestian terrorists in an attempt to disrupt the negotiations I don't think there is a ice cube's chance in, ah, the desert at noontime, for peace.

Donald M.
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Virginia, USA
September 8, 2010

Donald M. in Virginia writes:

I think until one or the other moves out, we will always have CONFLICT. Pouring money at these two countries, when they will ONLY continue battling over land is ridicious. I would rather see ISREAL have full control over the West Bank and Settlements, and MOVE the Palestine People to a safe NEW location. The isolation for the Palestine people has to be exhausting, when a simple solution is to move them out, start over in a new Land. The biggest problem is everyone wants that Mosque in Isreal, where jesus was born, and I believe the Isreal will fight tooth and nail to keep it. Otherwise, will have the same problems, same situation where both Nations receive money, and nothing ever gets accomplished towards peace. The best way of looking at this situation is, a person having a heart attack, they require medical attention, and getting to a Hospital very quickly. Long as both sides cannot see "eye to eye" then you will have many heart attacks and less chance for medical care.

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