Minimizing Potential Threats From Iran

Posted by DipNote Bloggers
October 8, 2009

Deputy Secretary of State James B. Steinberg testified before the U.S. Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee. The Deputy Secretary said:"Our goal is to prevent Iran from achieving a nuclear weapons capability. And we will work with our allies and partners towards that goal, as well as to counter Iranian actions that threaten to destabilize the greater Middle East and the rest of the world. To that end, as you've observed, we've pursued a dual-track strategy of economic sanctions and engagement. We think that only by using them together and coordinating them closely can we achieve this important objective."

Read the Deputy Secretary's full remarks here.

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Donald
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Virginia, USA
October 8, 2009

Donald in Virginia writes:

There is an old saying, "If you have a weapon always assumed its loaded" The intelligence community should of done a complete check on what weapons, nuclear, and biological weapons Russia sold Iran? Notice how they also sold them a brand new air defense system. There are no more guesses, IRAN HAS IT.

The real question is what will happen next?

I think we also can assume that Isreal won't be the number one player in this process. What needs to be done?

This is my foward way of thinking that could resolve this entire situation from escalating into global nuclear warfare.

First the Iran Nuclear Power Plants need a good hot meltdown. How can a Nuclear Power plant melt down?

Remove the harden water which cools the reactors, meaning to take out its means to cool the high temps. Find and remove the harden water storage facilities in Iran. Then the plants themselves would meltdown and problem solved for the world. Keep in mind to destroy all means of water gaining access to these plants.

You remove those water storage facailities and the game is up for Iran. The entire plants would go into total meltdowns, destroying everything inside the plant. This would be fruitful and prevent nuclear warfare.

This was the answer to the riddle. Have a nice day!

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
October 8, 2009

Eric in New Mexico writes:

@ Donald, With all due respect, I thnk it's probably a safer more environmentally friendly approach to simply cause a political meltdown of Iran's leadership through the total and complete implementation of a cessation of trade both inport and export with Iran on a global level, as well as total and complete diplomatic bannishment from the UN, until such time as a new leadership can reratify all the founding documents and the Charter itself.

And when it happens, it should be done with the intent to force the regime from power, not for some pie-in-the-sky expectaton of "behavior change", that won't ever be forthcomming in our lifetimes.

Call it instead. "an incentive for early retirement." if folks wish to put it in such a perspective.

I'm more concerned with the present threats that exist now than the potential ones everyone seems concerned about, and we can start with the number of dead U.S. troopers that Iran is responsible for via support for the taleban, Shiite extremist groups and al-quaida in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

The "double game" Sec. Gates refered to has to come to a screeching halt one way or another, without delay.

Elliot Cohen, former Counsellor to the State dept. had it right recently in an op-ed when he laid out the parameters of the problem if sanctions arn't effective.

My take on it is this:

Iran should not be giving the U.S. "Causus Belli", because we will rain on their parade in a serious way far beyond simply defeating their "special groups" in Iraq.

Freedom will come to Iranians en mass when we decide to go to the source of the problem and eliminate it.

The corrollary to that old saying is, "If you're going to point a weapon at someone, make darn sure it's loaded first."

Time to "lock and load".

Joe
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Tennessee, USA
October 9, 2009

Joe in Tennessee writes:

"an incentive for early retirement."

Won't happen....and he knows there is little affect we can have without Russias total support...

Rain on what Parade?

Has anyone been there?..the only way will be from within the citizen and business base, no more, no less...or termination and who would knows as he has so many enimies now.

Not for anything, how do these guys stay alive? From Idi Amin onward...who lets them live and the peace makers die? God?

Am I the only one who wonders?

Donald
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Virginia, USA
October 8, 2009

Donald in Virginia writes:

@ Eric in New Mexico -- Since were having all these earthquakes lately it is a telling sign someone is messing with mother nature. I'm taking a guess that Iran is already testing underground, at which case all the talks in the world may not settle this growing problem that exists.

While your waiting for the leader of Iran to meltdown, he is busy marrying up nuclear warheads to missiles, and mass producing nuclear weapons. Your sipping coffee or tea, while undground in Iran, they are most likely busy working day and night progessing with his biological program.

People can be aware and try to prepare themselves, while the politics continue... sooner or later those meetings may produce or may not produce positive results, and guess what at the end of the day, he still has weapons of mass destruction. Then what?

How long before the Leader of Iran decides to test these Nuclear Weapons on a Nation? Millions of people would vanish off the face of the earth in seconds.

That is why I mentioned the meltdowns. It would be less risky to melt their power plants down then to allow him the capability to destroy millions.

I equally respect your comments Eric.

Godbless and Godspeed!

John
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Greece
October 9, 2009

John in Greece writes:

@ Donald in VA & Eric in NM

Extremely interesting debate and I really love reading your posts. So, please allow me to post a "loaded" question:

QUOTES:
1. "If you have a weapon always assumed its loaded"
2. "If you're going to point a weapon at someone, make darn sure it's loaded first."
END OF QUOTES.

However, if you point a weapon at someone, loaded or not, how come the other guy be sure that you have no bullets left. And vice-versa.

All of which means that Sec. Gates is right again: the key question is how we interpret the word "delay".

Ron
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New York, USA
October 9, 2009

Ron in New York writes:

Man proposes.....

DoS approach to Iran's Nuclear ambitions is to be commended...reasoned, balanced, and responsible to the USG, Israel, and regions security interests. Very generous, given the destructive declarations
made by Iran's leader. It would be a disaster if Iran were permitted to engage and ultimately attack. We must be mindful of the religious extemism which drives this particular leader.

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
October 9, 2009

Eric in New Mexico writes:

But Donald, I'm not waiting for the regime to meltdown, it's already in process, folks just need to give it a swift kick over the abyss.

And yea, they are all about deception and not playing nice with the other kids in the sandbox, and we'll take their toys away in the process.

And yeah, where there's one secret facility there are at least 3 more the IAEA would love to know about, according to my sources.

But as yet, they don't have any working power plants, thus they have no fuel in them, to meltdown.

Which is why some folks want to bomb them before they start up.

Curious why they need to enrich fuel for power with no plants yet to put them in, and an already agreed fuel delivery and recovery program w/ Russia for the Bushir reactor that's going through the final inspection phase before start up.

That question has been answered, and it ain't being done for peaceful purposes.

Syrian P.
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Syria
October 9, 2009

SNP in Syria writes:

The title of this post read: Minimizing Potential Threats from Iran -- IRI already possess a humongous threat potential, but what kind of threat you fear. If it is a threat that it will retaliate against any attack on its soil, yes, you should be concerned, because Iran does maintain an effective deterrent and a retaliatory potential. If the concern about this potential relating to IRI attacking other nations, i.e., Israel, Saudi-Arab or USA that will be laughable. Iran is peaceful nation and never attacked neighbors before, why it will do that in the future unprovoked.

This whole hoopla seems to have underlying nefarious agenda, Since they have said they accept even American companies to engage in energy projects, including nuclear installations, It is rather puzzling what is really behind this facade of fear mongering, the sort Saddam was such a potential threat and turned out to be a genuine series of lies and even forgeries. Is this relating to grays, reptilians and DUMBS perhaps. Nothing else is making any sense for a reasonable assessment of this supposed threat.

It is time for Israelis and Iranians to sit face to face and work together on breaking down this wall of fear and insecurity. This will tear the game plan of the real plotters behind this sinister plot. The late Shah Pahlavi said it very eloquently here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQgZ3oLp_WY

Donald
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Virginia, USA
October 9, 2009

Donald in Virginia writes:

Let me see a brand new parking lot in Iran? Wait...Free Parking.... I can agree Eric in New Mexico if the plants are not running, it would be difficult to melt down. Then there is always the thought that they may have undeground Nuclear reactor running? Since we all know that satellites do not pick up everything underneath.

I think we all can agree the end of Nuclear Weapons would be a good thing for everyone on earth.

Look around and see how many Nations now have Nuclear Power, and most likely have stockpiled nuclear weapons. I read how President George W. Bush sold the Nuclear technolgoy to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, go figure 15 of 19 hijackers came from that country that attacked us on September 11th, 2001. Oil for Nuclear power deal.

Which means the world is far more fluid with Nuclear power and possible weapons which could in fact destroy the earth. I just hope our intelligence folks are keeping a close eye on all countries who possses Nuclear power, watching what arms are being sold, and what leaders up with these potential dangerous systems. Let's not forget about North Korea and I still think Lybia is holding out, guessing he did not destroy everything.

Why can't Nations just bake cookies, or cakes, make bread, or something other than playing the thermal nuclear warfare game with everyone?

If its a question whether we should attack Iran, I believe like everyone if there is a peaceful way to get resolve, I would support it, on the other hand it would be smart to destroy those reactors before he continues his Nuclear program, before millions of people perish.

I can also look foward to the day when the Iran leader steps down, and allows for a new Leader with common sense, intelligence and cares about humanity take over.

Godbless and peace out!

Donald
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Virginia, USA
October 9, 2009

Donald in Virginia writes:

Congratulations to President Barack Obama on winning Nobel Peace Prize. The question will be how many other Nations will follow in line towards peace not war? End Nuclear generation once and for all. We all want to live in Peace and it should include countries like North Korea, Iran, Lybia, Iraq, Russia, Saudi Arabia. No country in the world should have so many Nuclear Weapons they lose track, or sell them to third world countries which would only cause deaths in the magnitude. We all should take a bigger lead from God, being responsible and accountable for your actions on earth. We are custodians of the earth and if in the end it's destroyed, the only people you can blame then is yourself. God certainly did not make nuclear weapons, and I'm sure he is probably very upset that countries have to stockpile this kind of weapon to prove national security for its Nation. I once again point out our 3-Mile Island incident and Russia's incident, along with the two bombs that destroyed 2 Japanese cities during World War 2. Let us also remember all the tests of this type of weapon, Sends Shock Waves through the earth, causing earthquakes and homes without power, and deaths.

Nuclear Weapons are bad MOJO!!!

We all should strive for Peace on earth and Goodwill to people! This is for everyone!

Godbless and Godspeed!!!

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
October 9, 2009

Eric in New Mexico writes:

Donald,

We may approach the issue from our individual viewpoints, but the spirit's obviously the same.

"Why can't Nations just bake cookies, or cakes, make bread, or something other than playing the thermal nuclear warfare game with everyone?"

Mothers everywhere have been asking this question for some three generations running.

I think of bin laden's mom and what she must think of her son trying to aquire nukes with the intent to use one on an innocent population, and it occurs to me that the answer to your question is pretty simple;

The reason folks arn't baking cookies is because the global village is still dealing with the sons of mothers who'd just as soon never would have born them into this world.

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
October 9, 2009

Eric in New Mexico writes:

@ John in Greece,

Then the question must be put in process of the draw, "Do you think you're fast enough?"

You wrote;

"All of which means that Sec. Gates is right again: the key question is how we interpret the word "delay"."

As an informed US citizen with a bit of a personal stake in the matter I would respectfully suggest that the honorable Sec. of Defense ( who I have a lot of respect for ) seek a more creative and permanent approach to the problem.

I believe one creates their own reality, with the help of taxpayer dollars.

At half a trillion a year, we better be able to create reality for others if we have to.

And that my friend, is THE BOTTOM LINE.

T.J
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United Kingdom
October 10, 2009

T.J. in the United Kingdom writes:

Let us examine some basic facts about Irans axis of power first.

1- The supreme leader - Khamenei - is an old man and is suffering from Prostate Cancer. Time up soon ?
2- The Rev Guards control the Import/Exports and directly benefit.
3- Over 90% of the Iranian population want democratic freedom and thus, do not support the regime and it's junta.

(1)+(2) depend on each others cooperation for "both" to have continuity and survival. They have also managed to establish bases in Lebanon, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine.......
This is a numbers game. The bigger the number, the bigger the headache and the bigger the remedy.

Now, if their idealogy was something pleasant, well I would have joined them myself. But while they represent a real threat to the free world - for which I am grateful to be a part of - I decided a long time ago to be a part of the remedy.

I must give my best wishes to President Obama. He has won the Nobel Peace prize for his intentions. In my opinion, he should give it back as he has inherited a serious headache from the Mullahs regime and sooner or later he has to act with painful consequences. The sooner, the smaller the remedy.

I also would like to thank Jimmy Carter, James Callahan and their advisors for their active role in creating this headache.

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