How Do You Define Service?

Posted by DipNote Bloggers
September 12, 2009
Students Volunteer With Habitat for Humanity in Texas

This year we commemorate the first September 11 National Day of Service and Remembrance.

Secretary Clinton said, "This country was built and has endured on a tradition of service. It's a common thread that binds Americans of all generations together."How do you define service?

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marvin
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Alabama, USA
September 12, 2009

Marvin in Alabama writes:

I serviced in the us army for 23 yrs

palgye
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South Korea
September 12, 2009

Palgye in South Korea writes:

Dear to manager.

Of the probably, crisis of the nation and the interest many people earnestly all concentrates a strength together is in the work which becomes necessary, relationship without in presence of identity and property, to being more difficult oneself, the people who is placed about will not be assists to without?

"i never been there but i will go there evem if, cross nation, with have a frotier spirit"

just my thinking.

with sends a meditation about 9/11 victims together.

thank you.

joe
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Tennessee, USA
September 12, 2009

Joe in Tennessee writes:

Lately, it seems that there is some archaic ideology that we are supposed to all work for free, but with some false attachment to a more noble cause: Is this what American Representation is:

SERVICE (law)... the acts performed by an English feudal tenant for the benefit of his lord which formed the consideration for the property granted to him.

I thought we fought against this ideology...to establish something different.

If work had not been migrated out of the country to the extent it has been by both sides of the fence since 1978 -14th and Chestnut in Philadelphia- ie: Global Economics-and I was there, there would be no need to beg the American public to provide what OUR REPRESENTED Government was supposed to protect: Payment for Services rendered.

With economic stability from employment, there would be a tax base and funding to provide payment for services now being asked to provide for free:

QUOTE from WikiPedia: Service is a work that we do to get salary. Service is a work in which we get salary to take care of our family.

That's what is supposed to be in primary function in a democracy.

You don't work for free, why should all of America now?

AS
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District Of Columbia, USA
September 13, 2009

A.S. in Washington, DC writes:

I like Gandhi's thought on service:

"The best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others."

In keeping with Gandhi's missive, I've enjoyed "losing" myself in the service of the U.S. State Department's Foreign Service for almost seven years and look forward to doing so for many years to come.

Edite
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Canada
September 13, 2009

Edite in Canada writes:

As a willing act. A willingness to do good deeds for others and one's communities must be acts of a willing hearts and souls. Teachers serve their students willingly. Doctors perform their surgeries and healing willingly. Friends who plant flowers in their public parks and sites do this willingly, to make their environment beautiful. Service is another word for just plain giving....by choice,......... not by coercion.The pastor performs a church service willingly. When conscription or a draft is in place, the service the military gives is still that but cannot be classified as willingly in all cases.The waiter/waitress in the restaurant serves your meals, drinks willingly, but does as well as they can in order to receive a good tip for service rendered. Where the word service becomes a problem is when it is observed or expected as a subservient act without renumeration. Feudal Lords had servants to fulfill their every need. Today, Queen Elizabeth II has a household of servants of every title and duty imaginable, but they are rewarded monetarily for their efforts.One could name numerous instances where service is conducted, but willingly, of one's own volition. There are government agencies that serve the needs of the people and they are required by the government of the day to satisfy the wants and needs of the population.

Now, here is where the word, service, becomes a problem. A judge decides that one who is convicted of a meagre offence can serve time doing community service. This is service done unwillingly and it has been demanded and declared.

Volunteer soldiers, firemen, etc do these jobs willingly.

If a government, or people in power ,demand subservience to whatever, it would be considered to be an unwilling act, induced through coercion.This is not ideal service and can render resentment.

The most down to earth illustration one can provide is one where a young child owns a toy he treasures and does not wish to part with, especially to another young children who is clamouring for it. Should the parent force the child to hand over the toy to the other child, unwillingly, but be coerced by a parent who tells his child, you must share. Todays young socialists would say that is the correct way to behave.I want what you have and you must give it to me, is the prevailing sentiment in this case. Pure socialism.

What the parent should have done is to suggest to the child that now would be a good time for ""whatever" to be put away for now or be allowed to rest for a while. It can be played with again later, when the others have gone.This is the choice we are given in a democracy.The boy has seen democracy in action. We are allowed to make choices of our own free will without feeling guilty about treasuring a toy that is precious to us.

Socialism says that if you have something I want and can't afford one of my own, then you, the neighbour ,are required to give it to me.Democracy says, here, borrow mine for a while, and please return it when you are finished with it.

If President Obama is initiating a prescribed course of service to the State, then that is called totalitariansim. One has said this before: if President Obama wanted to remain a community organizer, he should have stayed in Chicago with his birds of a feather.

Joao
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Brazil
September 14, 2009

Jaoa in Brazil writes:

Every kind of job is important to keep society together. Work defines the honor of a real man.

John O.
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Tennessee, USA
September 14, 2009

John O. in Tennessee writes:

Each tax dollor spent is indectly used in service for and by the American Public.

The situatiion of people helping people is one thing: but, when work, which otherwise should provide saleries, becomes replaced by free labor...it is not service to the country, but a replacement of and by Americans Paying for the failure of their representatives.

Zharkov
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United States
September 14, 2009

Zharkov in U.S.A. writes:

The contention that "the country was built and has endured on a tradition of (public) service" is a false proposition. The men who attended the Constitutional Convention were landowners, not public officials.

The men who built the railroads across the nation to provide access to the West were not government officials.

The colonists who immigrated to America did not come here in order to work for the government.

If you read the constitution even a little bit, you will discover the people who built America wanted a tiny federal government, not a goliath of public servants meddling in everyone's business across the nation.

What we have now is not public service, but public disservice when a government dictates to our people how they shall support themselves on what little remains of their wage after taxes and living expenses, how they are to procure their own health care and pay for it against their will, and whether they want that or not.

Is it a service or disservice to force people to pay part of their wages to the insurance industry for something they may not want or need? What happened to individual choice in America?

People also need healthy food to eat, so why not force them to buy a certain brand of salad or peanut butter at the supermarket?

People need transportation to work, so why not force them to buy bus tickets and order government agencies to seize their automobiles?

Socialism is not public service. Americans do not want a Marxist dictator to lead us, and if that is what "service" means to you, you are in the wrong country.

Joe
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Tennessee, USA
September 14, 2009

Joe in Tennessee writes:

1. Volunteer soldiers, firemen, etc do these jobs willingly. Yes but: they get paid for their work. Its a job choice. Soldiers, even Christian ones, recieve a payment, unless your an Islamic fundlementalist who has a wealthy family or job. If you don't beleive me, how many have classic autos, business, new cars, home improvements etc. which are funded by TAX EXEMPT monies? THEY GET PAID, there are NO FREE SOLDIERS and putting you life on the line is a choice... Firemen in small towns may, where it is legal to do so and proper training is supplied for certification. Which is done by PAID personal.

2. We can't all be Budist and in a capitilist system, who wants to be?

The reference is that there seems to be a movement for replacing paid jobs, lost now by a failed Representation of the American Worker.

A small representation of what my inference is: If you have people build homes for free, what becomes of the taxs and saleries of those who would be paid for their services and crafts? Why not offer tax breaks for actual contractors that would compensate them for the work? If we have companies move out of the country because they cannot meet enviornmental laws, why not offer incentives and deferments so they can more effectively keep Americans employed and address the problem? Moving enviornmental problems to countrires who do not have any provisions for International restraints does not eliminate the problem.

Americans are very upset about our present situation. By supporting the governments of others, many feel we have failed our own people. The Health Care issue is realy just a whipping post for the lack of faith people have in the system in general...though still the best in the world.

America has served the needs of others before its own and in my estimation, it seems that if any service is to be provided, it is the American Government to the American people by providing jobs.

There is no problem in America which cannot be addressed if work were kept in this country...even Medical care. It would not even be an issue...it is sad to see the American Government asking us to do what it should be have been protecting...and do it for free.

Normita
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California, USA
September 14, 2009

Normita in California writes:

Service is how you conduct yourself in your home, school, workplace and in the community for the betterment of not only yourself but for others. Its what inspires others, broaden horizons and make the world a better place.

Susan
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Florida, USA
September 14, 2009

Susan in Florida writes:

To me service means the golden rule...to help others is a human responsibility, and, I believe, a human desire. Whether you do it locally, in your own neighborhood, or globally, perhaps through the Peace Corps, it is, and always has been, the very salve that helps to heal our human condition. Some of the comments, thus far, have surprised me. Ungenerous and cynical are the words that come to mind. I believe that President Obama and Secretary Clinton are encouraging us to think less about ourselves, and to reach out to those in our communities who are in need. And by the way, unselfishness makes you feel good!

Donald
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Virginia, USA
September 14, 2009

Donald in Virginia writes:

I agree with you susan in florida

The only problem that bothers me, how the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement started taking our jobs and allowing more drugs and guns being sold across the borders.

JOE
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Tennessee, USA
September 15, 2009

Joe in Tennessee writes:

IT IS ABOUT SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE BY REPRESENTATIVES of the PEOPLE -- not Party.

IT starts at the top, not bottom. The people of the USA have a strong history of helping each other, that is not the issue and this blog supports a standard used by politicians for ages: Turn around.

IT IS ABOUT SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE BY REPRESENTATIVES of the PEOPLE -- not Party --and they have FAILED the AMERICAN CITIZEN in service to them.

Do you honestly believe that not one group of Representatives or Senators did not notice how many people were put on the streets or lost their jobs since 97? Records were set that long ago and NOT ONE THING WAS DONE. Thank God there was a war at least along the way.

It's a moot point at this juncture! I am a Ross Perrot believer and even doubt the Republican vs. Democrat nonsense which is going on...it simply takes our eyes off the ball.

The Roman Empire was great at this: If you can't control or convince the people, confuse the people or make them insecure...doing something without doing anything, this is not SERVICE now is it?

Zharkov
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United States
September 17, 2009

Zharkov in U.S.A. writes:

I give Mr. Obama credit for making the right decision to drop the European missile shield. Europe is fully capable of defending itself at its own expense if the need arises.

The big issue was Russia, and the effect those missiles would have on wrecking U.S.-Russian relations in the future.

That is a real service to the American public - to avoid conflict when possible, avoid irritating people who prefer to be our friends, and make a positive statement to Europe that America is not going to be their piggy bank despite the drain of NATO on our tax revenues.

Another service remains to be done: Repeal the Jackson-Vanik Amendment so we can have normal trade with Russia and allow Russia to become a first-class trading partner with us. Russia needs bigger markets and so do we. Let's help them.

Repealing Jackson-Vanik is one way to say "thank you" to Russia for allowing us to use their territory to resupply our troops in Afghanistan.

We have been a bit remiss in the past years in thanking other nations for the favors they grant to us, and we owe them at least that much.

Repeal of Jackson-Vanik doesn't automatically lead to huge trade deals, but it does mean that we are finally ending the Cold War from our side, and that places the ball in Russia's court to build a viable consumer goods sector which may someday replace military goods in their export mix.

joe
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Tennessee, USA
September 17, 2009

Joe in Tennessee writes:

Russia has played most it cards out and we lost. There were no services to the U.S. and it seems only the OLD Guard even paid attention back in the 90s to 2000s...with NO SERVICE of recognition to protection of U.S. safeguards from Russia. We are constantly playing catch up ball with Russia and to be honest, we cannot at this juncture. Sometimes you have to cut your losses; but, to play out some nonsense that we are doing the right thing now is untimely and weak.

China will be the problem...we were double teamed and our Representatives would rather spend a day, after recess, on one man calling another a liar, regardless of who it was, then look to the future of Americas real problems...think about it. Nothing has changed; they just keep producing some type of press to take attention off the real issues. Gosh, they used to fight in the Senate Room...God Bless Andrew Jackson...big deal, name calling.

What service?...if they listened to Ross Perrot and further back GW Bush, we would not be where we are now, but agreed, Obama is trying something different and less costly. However; if it is at the cost of Future National Security, hindsight will be paid in the loss of many, many lives.

NATIONAL SECURITY is not a popularity game and Russia is playing for keeps. Not just looking to the past, they have developed quite a future in a short period of time.

With a name like Zhukov or whatever your real name is, perhaps you will feel right at home ...lol

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
September 18, 2009

Eric in New Mexico writes:

Service, whether one is paid to preform one or not, is not about the money for any act of service by its nature is intiated by a compulsion of the concience to help one's fellow human being.

At least in theory...

Be your do.

Joe
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Tennessee, USA
September 18, 2009

Joe in Tennessee writes:

1. Then become a Priest Eric...A very long time ago Greenspan said "It's about the economy stupid" to a President who kept him on...not put him on the street...America is not a Kibbutz....

2. QUOTE: I give Mr. Obama credit for making the right decision to drop the European missile shield. Europe is fully capable of defending itself at its own expense if the need arises END QUOTE

It is only correct if we don't lose Poland and Czechoslovakia as allies...they anticipated us being there, not only in funding; but, for security measures as the Russian Bear has wakened and moved quite aggressively into Northern Europe. Economically, much of Europe is dependent on Russia and our old allies are supporting much of Russia's manufacturing in all respects. As far as Southern Europe and even Northern Europe being upset, if they want the U.S. to protect them, then purchase OUR GOODS AND SERVICES...ONE SERVICE PROVIDED IN EXCHANGE FOR ANOTHER...the same holds true in South America...

The security risk has changed in the Middle East considerably in a short period of time due to recent elections, which is the ONLY REASON for the alterations...

3. Russia can alter the price of both the dollar and gold in just a few hours....the price of Platinum as well...how have our Representatives protected us from this Economic fallout both here and abroad? Imagine what it would do to the entire world's economy if they dumped Gold on the market?

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