How Would the Opening of Diplomatic Relations Between Lebanon and Syria Affect the Middle East?

Posted by DipNote Bloggers
July 25, 2008
Syrian Foreign Minister and Lebanese President

At a meeting of Mediterranean countries in Paris, President Bashar al-Assad of Syria and President Michel Suleiman of Lebanon agreed to open embassies in each other’s capital cities. This would be the first time the two countries established diplomatic relations since they gained independence more than 60 years ago.

How would the opening of diplomatic relations between Lebanon and Syria affect the Middle East?

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Jonathan N.
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California, USA
July 26, 2008

Jonathan in California writes:

The opening of diplomatic relations between Lebanon and Syria could possibly lead to greater stability in that region of the Middle East. Their newfound willingness to engage in conversation and collaboration will pave the way to a future that is more peaceful than it is now. This could have a ripple effect that affects all of the Middle East. An important question is whether Lebanon and Syria will build on this achievement.

Syrian P.
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Syria
July 26, 2008

SNP in Syria writes:

Depends on what type of Diplomatic relation that will best suite the countries that were one and socially still only one that was artificially divided by colonialist rulers (divide and conquer), if it is just Jurisdictional in nature to facilitate Inter- Government relations, it will be acceptable and tolerable, as such will not be overtly intrusive for the citizenries -- of both countries.

As condition for SNP and several other political parties, (small groups or big following) to agree for such concept, in order that such Embassy development not lead to Civil Wars in both countries, there must not be any intrusive regulations resulting from the establishment of Embassies between Syria and Lebanon, such as the establishment of a VISA regime or Passport bearing inter-travel, or the establishment of any regulations that will interfere intrusively with the transit of goods, people, Agriculture, medical necessities, Banking and finance, telecommunications, etc.

On the other hand, lets point here few details about why the establishment of Embassies between the States is a seriously flawed and bad idea, it is in fact a conniving request made by Western/Israeli interests not Syro-Lebanese one.

-- The States governmentally and publicly have not matured enough, nor self confidence has been established as yet, despite the fact that the unnatural separation by degenerated Christian Colonial France acured more than 6 decades ago.

-- Incompetence in administrative and technological means still prevalent in both States.

-- A sectarian makeup, which is still to this day, the means and ruling factor in people and government relations both on Inter-state and Intra-states levels. This will be further tensioned to a possible explosive flash point at the slightest of mishap by incompetence. Sending in the aftermath the embassy concept that was set up in such considered ways to that of Cuba-USA one, severely hinder the public from conducting any of the above functions, ways of life, that were agreed upon initially at the Start of Embassy Relations.

-- The States unique and perilous interdependence in every level, especially in intermarriage, interfamily relation, sect relations and even the dual nationalities of many, will be detrimental to the safety of those concerned and breaks down of interdependence will weaken the States.

It is the above list of possible and serious damages to the people and the States, an assured one should relations sour for any one small reason with passion running high on both sides (a genetic trait) that drives the Neo-Colonial Europeon to such an extreme in demanding the establishment of Embassies between Syria and Lebanon, knowing in fact what outcome this venture will ends up like. The demand is not by the People of Syria and neither of the Lebanese population, but rather European, Diabolically Criminal U.N. and last but for sure not least, the Jews.

What interest do the Jews have in forcing for nearly 60 years the issue of establishing Embassies between Syria and Lebanon? Mischievous as they are, they know what will Lebanon and Syria relations will looks like in a year time, but they will not advise that to anyone else, they sew mischief and keep the usual Jewish snickers. Should relation go well, there is always the advance army of Mossad Kurds and Palestinian agents in Lebanon to foul it up on demand. At the end, all they want is to split Lebanon out of Syria and Join it to Greater Israel. They wants all the Banking of Lebanon connected not to Syria but Tel Aviv, they wants Lebanon trades and the transport though Israel not thru Al Arida. They want Lebanon to become an Israel trading partner, not of Syria. What Jews really wants out of pushing the Embassy issue is carefully detailed in one SNP study.

The Study concludes that the overtly benign Embassy issue is covertly all about having Lebanon becomes a satellite Jewish state, for gambling Casinos, brothels, sex trafficking, all the typically Jewish criminalities enterprises. The Lebanese populace will ends up hooked on drugs, pornography and sports, while the wealth of Lebanon is transferred under the guise of Freedom and Democracy to the Jews. Lebanon will be the outlet and the landing airport, the gate way to receive the rest of the oil wealthy Arab Dollars through Jewish criminality enterprises.

It is with this end goal in mind that the Jews are prodding the U.N. and the West to enforce the various U.N. garbage resolutions, isolate Syria and establish the embassies. It is with the same vain that they needs to destroy Shia Moslem Hezbollah as well as compromise Syria's President and control him, one can now can see who was really behind the assassination of Hariri all along, who masterminded and the ultimate beneficiary.

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
July 29, 2008

Eric in New Mexico writes:

It's a step towards mutual respect for the soveregnity of both nations and the start of a more normalized releationship.

It is also a manifestation of the Syrian govenment's inherent recognition that the UN resolution calling for the withdrawl of Syrian forces from Lebanon was not only valid in it's purpose, but served Syria's long term interests as well, though it took some time for Al-Assad to realize this and make something positive come from it.

With so much trade going on between both, it's also logical to formalize trade relations and processes of negotiation between Syria and Lebanon.

Both have legitimate security concerns that need to be addressed in a formal diplomatic manner to resolve issues surrounding terrorist acts, the smuggling of munitions, and destabilizing elements and groups that choose not to be part of any peaceful future.

As Wiseman in Syria wrote:
"@Eric in New Mexico if you own the correct answer for this (why they killed harriri) then you probably know who killed harriri."
http://blogs.state.gov/index.php/entires/q_economic_rise/

The only thing I own is my gut instinct, and it usually serves me well. But that is different from "knowing".

JOE
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Tennessee, USA
July 28, 2008

Joe in Tennessee writes:

Syria, Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah -- the states and entities that Congress has noted for aggression against Israel, support for terrorism, or terrorist activities in the current crises -- are currently subject to fairly comprehensive U.S. economic sanctions.

Remember: Both these countries are anti Israel. This would be a major threat to Israel and could even adversely affect the war on terrorism in the Middle East. Asads continued support of military hardware and funneling of trained personal to Iraq is well documented. How could any of this be in Democracies favor when the more diligent and open minded Lebanese Minister cannot even control his people?

Not to take credit for something I did not write: from CRS report RL32727

Many Syrian nationalists have long regarded Lebanon as part of a "greater Syria" Currently, Syria keeps approximately 15,00 troops in neighboring Lebanon, ostensibly under an earlier Arab League peacekeeping mandate, and facilitates resupply of the Lebanese Shite Muslim Hizballah, as noted above. Hezbollah has continued to launch rocket attacks against Israeli forces near the Israeli-Lebanese border and occasionally against targets in northern Israel. Despite some reduction over the past four years, the Syrian military presence in Lebanon remains divisive and is resented by many Lebanese Christians, though welcomed by some other groups including the Shite Muslim community. Besides Syrias concern for maintaining its security interest in Lebanon, economic factors also contribute to its continued military presence in Lebanon. Although it is difficult to quantify the economic benefits Syria derives from its occupation of Lebanon, most experts note that the Lebanese economy is vital to Syrias own financial health. The Lebanese economy absorbs thousands of migrant Syrian workers, who would otherwise have difficulty finding work back home. Lebanese banks are valuable sources of capital for Syrian businesses.

1. Both have economic and political instability.

2. These problems include cultural conflict which compounds the problem. From Kurds, Hezbollah, Alawite, Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, Arab Nationalist and on and on. Neither country has control over their population, much less corruption.

3. Our only hope is the intelligesta and economic leadership within the countries for a more democratic leadership by leverage as the Asad regime needs them.

4. Do not forget that Russia has helped Syria with an advanced biological weapons program and promise of nuclear aid, which puts this on the Israeli doorstep.

5. It means Lebanon has curtailed to Syrian leadership.

It is a new hurdle to cross over -- it makes things more complicated now and shows the reason for Syrias sub. Seems there is a lot of back door politics against the proposed peace negoiations with Israel and the US as well as European Union.

Eric
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New Mexico, USA
July 28, 2008

Eric in New Mexico writes:

Why Syria needs a submarine is a true mystery, if the reports are even true...I think it goes without saying that it won't make it far on a mission of ill intent with NATO attack subs prowling about the Med.

But maybe they are going into the cocaine smugglng buisiness with Hugo Chavez, who knows?

Heck of a waste of money for nothin' when it ends up on the bottom of the ocean.

We'll see if Assad takes a completely different and more positive path or not Joe, but there are some signs he's thinking about it.

Maybe the Israeli fighter jets that buzzed his residence awhile back had this effect.

That's definately one way of sending a clear message.

John
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Greece
July 29, 2008

John in Greece writes:

I think that Joe in Tennessee underlines perfectly an extremely serious component of the Blog's question by saying that "neither country has control over their population, much less corruption". Neither Syria, nor Lebanon.

We all support and believe in the importance of Diplomacy -- especially all of us who participate in this forum which is indeed diplomatic. Nevertheless, diplomatic relations between countries can have a positive effect and result when the officials that negotiate the agenda issues have the "clearance" to do so. It's vital for diplomats to have the Authority, however this is provided to them by the populations they represent on the table.

Unfortunately, this does not happen in this case due to the cultural, political and religious mosaics of the two countries. So, there is the danger for the "whole story" to become a diplomatic boomerang.

Joe
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Tennessee, USA
July 29, 2008

Joe in Tennessee writes:

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5297

DEBKAfile - Exclusive: Syria places massive missile, warplane, sub ...

Exclusive: Syria places massive missile, warplane, sub order in Moscow.

June 2, Russian military news on time link showed the launching of a Privately made sub back in June.

They ARE gearing up, so some degree of Order will have to be mandated by both courtiers by the time the weapons are delivered. Syria needs the coastline; so this does appear to be a long range stratagy.

You have to realize, why they want any subs in the same coefficient as larger or planting more nuclear weapons by any major power...it has become an acceptable military deterrent.

Israel has only 5 GAL UK subs...Regardless of the NATO force and US dependency, their Navy is the weak link as far as hardware is concerned. One sub alone negates more than one ship. They are pitting their might against Israeli. Add to that the fact Russia now wants to separate from NATO and form a NEW INTERNATIONAL police force which would include China, India and themselves to begin with. Talks start this year. The US and many old WWII alliances are to be circumvented.

We do have to be open to the militaristic aspect that goes beyond immediate talks and scenarios. The Arab population in general, is well known to: Keep your enemies at the table as long as you can "while you use the hands they cannot see".

It is innate in their diplomacy and an overview of all imputes must be considered it would seem.

Zharkov
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United States
July 31, 2008

Zharkov in U.S.A. writes:

Syria needs a submarine as much as America needs a military base on Mars. Actually that isn't a bad idea, moving the federal government to Mars. A few hundred million miles away, no sick Saudi living in a cave could plot to attack it there. Maybe then we could end our War on Tourism.

Ronald B.
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New York, USA
July 29, 2008

Ronald in New York writes:

The Middle East would benefit from Diplomatic relations with Syria and Lebanon; especially if they denounced Hamas and Hezbollah.

How did the USG get so messed up in Middle East affairs anyway?

Syrian P.
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Syria
July 29, 2008

SNP in Syria writes:

Syria's President Bashar Assad must thinks this armament will get the Israeli more serious about peace negotiation. It never did in the past when Syria was a power to consider with Hafez, all the Soviet might behind him, and some 30 billion Dollars worth of armament with the latest technologies of the time was in Syria's stock, free of charge (just call us for free delivery was the motto in Moscow). Not sure why the little extra outdated and plain out obsolete weapon purchases now by Syria and Iran will change Israeli attitude. They must think that Israeli were in deep sleep for a decades. My feeling is that either Ahmadinejad is at it again, plundering the poor Persians wealth or some high ranks are heavily in on the commissions. One day, Israel will deliver an awakening call out of the blue to the Syrians and Iranians and show what these weapons are really worth. But they will not do it, out of respect not to Syria or Iran but the West interests. They are happy to see these countries plundering valuable assets to acquire junks that are not of concern to Israeli strategists. Is not that one of Israel reasons to exist, help the West suck the Middle East bone dry? Amazing, the Syrians did not learn anything after -- whatever -- got attacked deep inside Syria. They forgot how humiliating that is.

wiseman
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Syria
July 30, 2008

Wiseman in Syria writes:

@SNP in Syria i guess you mean (ASSAD-BAATH) totalitarian regime by this

the Syrians did not learn anything after -- whatever -- got attacked deep inside Syria

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